I was wondering how was Gohan so much stronger as a normal Saiyan than Goku was as SS3 when he fought Buu. Is there not like a power level to reach the next SSJ form?

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Power level example:

  • 10,000 to reach SS1
  • 100,000 to reach SS2
  • etc.

Why couldn't Gohan reach SS3 already? Or he could fight as SS2 at least?

Maybe I have to rewrite my question again:

If you read the list below,

  • SS1 is always at about 25,000,000

  • SS2 is always at about 49,000,000

If Gohan with the Mystic Sword is as strong as Goku was as SS3, there wouldn't be any difference in their strength when he would transform into SS3?

  • I think I remember reading some time ago that they also have to be a pure blooded saiyan (which Gohan wasn't) to become super-saiyan 3. But this may have been pure fan speculation Jul 9, 2014 at 2:05
  • @user2716766 thanks for this info, i will follow this clue :)
    – Kjenos
    Jul 10, 2014 at 13:29
  • @user2716766 he doesn't have to be pure blooded, in later episodes, Gohan transforms in SSJ3. By the way, Goten is also not pure blooded and reaches SSJ3.
    – Kjenos
    Jul 11, 2014 at 6:22

4 Answers 4


Saiyan Power Levels - check this link out.

It states the power level every character have during a specific battle.

Majin Buu Saga

Fat Buu: 45,000,000
Majin Buu: 80,000,000
Good Buu: 55,000,000
Bad Buu: 65,000,000
Super Buu: 70,000,000
Ultimate Buu: 50,000,000
Majin Gotenks Buu: 90,000,000
Majin Vegito Buu: 100,000,000
Goku: 5,000,000
Goku (Super Saiyan): 27,000,000
Goku (Super Saiyan 2): 49,500,000
Goku (Super Saiyan 3): 79,999,999
Goku (Genki-dama): 100,000,000
Piccolo: 26,000,000
Gohan: 3,000,000
Gohan (Super Saiyan): 25,000,000
Gohan (with the Z sword): 53,000,000
Goten: 1,500,000
Goten (Super Saiyan): 10,000,000
Trunks: 1,500,000
Trunks (Super Saiyan): 10,000,000
Gotenks: 3,000,000
Gotenks (Super Saiyan): 20,000,000
Gotenks (Super saiyan 3): 75,000,000
Vegeta: 5,000,000
Vegeta (Super Saiyan): 26,500,000
Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2): 49,000,000
Vegito: 10,000,000
Vegito (Super Saiyan): 53,000,000
Vegito (Super Saiyan 2): 99,500,000

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    thank you very much, but that doesn't answer my question. also it doesn't show, how Gohan (3'000'000) could beat Buu (55'000'000)...
    – Kjenos
    Jun 30, 2014 at 10:18
  • Seems a bit ambiguous, but it was Gohan with the Z-Sword ot Mystic Gohan that fought Buu.
    – Arcane
    Jun 30, 2014 at 10:57
  • ok so it would be Goahn (53'000'000) against Buu (65'000'000)?
    – Kjenos
    Jun 30, 2014 at 14:28
  • The chart is just an estimate, I would take it with a grain of salt. Though the import thing here is that Super Saiyan, SS2, etc... Are based relatively off their non-SS form.
    – BlueBuddy
    Jun 30, 2014 at 14:39
  • To add to this, imho Gohan in mystic form is as strong as SS3 (I think Gotenks SS3 himself said so...).. There are lots of other disparities... Piccolo for 1 is stronger than SS Goku... So these levels are just an estimate.
    – Arcane
    Jul 3, 2014 at 8:31

I think i found a possible answer:

I found this in the DB Wiki .

As Goku, Supreme Kai, and Kibito observe what is happening down on Earth, Gohan grows increasingly impatient as Old Kai reads and laughs at comics instead of unlocking his power. Gohan soon loses his patience and angrily powers up, displaying an amazing power that illuminates the Supreme Kai planet. However, amazed at realizing that some of his power really was unlocked, Gohan apologizes to Old Kai, and resumes the ritual. After some time, the ritual is finally completed and Gohan is told to power up like he does for the Super Saiyan transformation; however, when he does, his appearance does not change, but his power and strength gain an awesome increase. Gohan says goodbye to Supreme Kai, Old Kai, and his father Goku and is transported back to Earth by Kibito. Before Kibito transports back to the Supreme Kai planet, Gohan asks for the clothes reminiscent of his father's, to which Kibito happily complies. Kibito wishes Gohan good luck and transports back to the Supreme Kai planet. With his power finally released and the fate of the world now in his hands, Gohan flies off to confront the new Majin Buu: Super Buu.

So it seems when Gohan get "Mystic Gohan", even though he increased his Power his appearance didn't change. So he coulnd't transform in any other Saiyan form than the normal form, but still getting stronger.


As we saw more recently in Dragon Ball Super, Gohan in mystic form isnt the same as Gohan in base form. Once he got rusty, to reach mystic form he had to power up to super saiyan and super saiyan 2 first, to finally reach the mystic form transformation, which looks very similar to base form with the sole difference that he has a bang and more spiky hair.

Gohan turns mystic again - Dragon Ball Super


The first Super Saiyan transformation occurs when a Saiyan who has reached a very high level of power loses himself in a fit of rage.[22] However, the transformation must be triggered in response to a great need, an example being in Goku's case to defeat Frieza. While physical change is not too drastic apart from a slight increase in muscle mass,[23][24] the power output increase is colossal; the form is said to multiply the Saiyan's power by 50x times its normal amount[22] (in the Dragon Ball Z: The Anime Adventure Game, the multiplier for the form is 2.5x the user's normal amount of power). When Goku utilises the Super Saiyan form against General Rilldo in Dragon Ball GT, Rilldo states that Goku's power has increased a hundredfold.

Source: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan

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    Welcome to Anime and manga, Could you explain your answer a bit in terms of relevance to the question rather than a copy and paste job from a wiki
    – Memor-X
    Jul 8, 2014 at 23:59

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