Spoiler alert, stop reading if you're not past One Piece episode 483.

When the guy (Akainu) put a hole in Ace, why couldn't Ace just turn into his element like all of those elemental Devil Fruit users? I get that magma was able to burn him, but how does that stop him from just dispersing like the other elemental fruit users?

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You can read here that:

Users of Busoshoku Haki can strike Logia users as if they were human; Rayleigh describes it as the ability to "force into solidity the fluid bodies of the near-invincible Logia Fruit users" when he explains it. When Haki is applied to a Logia user while they are intangible, rather than nullifying the powers completely; it turns the user back to their physical form. It also allows the one using Haki to grab the person in their transformed state as if they were tangible.

From the manga:

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Chapter 597 Page 18.

  • I think this answer actually doesnt address the situation in question. I dont think Haki was involved at all.
    – J.Todd
    Commented Nov 21, 2015 at 23:29
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    @Viziionary I'm sorry if I didn't help answer your question but to me your question seemed like it was asking "How was Akainu able to hit Ace inspite of Ace being a Logia user?"/"Why couldn't Ace convert to his Fire form to avoid taking damage from Akainu's attack?" rather than "Why wasn't Ace able to heal from Akainu's attack?", and hence this answer. Although now that I read the title again, it makes sense.
    – Ashishgup
    Commented Nov 22, 2015 at 19:00
  • Your answer was high quality in terms of citation and explanation, I just wanted to make that comment because not only did I mistake it for being correct because of the pretty graphic, it got 5 votes and the correct answer seems to have even gotten a negative vote once I selected it.
    – J.Todd
    Commented Nov 23, 2015 at 12:41
  • @Viziionary in fairness, I don't have good enough references and the Haki explanation makes alot of sense even though mine does seem to be the canon answer. I fully understand the downvote and these upvotes. I should find canon references when I can (which i don't have access to at the moment or when I answered the question).
    – kaine
    Commented Nov 23, 2015 at 13:54
  • @Viziionary I can't confirm the fact about it getting a negative vote because I'm on my mobile right now and cannot expand votes, but okay. Anyway, no problem. I'll read the question more carefully next time.
    – Ashishgup
    Commented Nov 23, 2015 at 13:56

Certain Logia fruits seem to take dominance over other Logia fruits.

By my understanding, a Logia who is struck can still be hurt unless they turn into their element when struck. Several have learned to do that reflexively. Once damage is done to the user, their Logia fruits have never been shown to be able to heal the damage. They cannot create additional flesh, organs, etc from their element but only revert back to their rest state.

Bushoshoku Haki or sea stone can prevent the user's Logia fruit from taking effect. Those did not happen apparently in this case. Akainu was able to punch that killer hole in Ace because Ace was trying to defend Luffy. Akainu attributed the effectiveness to the fact that Magma is superior to Fire. This has been seen before with some Logia's having specific weaknesses or strengths compared to other elements. Enel was weak against Rubber. A small amount of water made the Sand Sand Fruit clump. Apparently Magma can burn Fire as it is so much hotter.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but Logia fruit users cannot "heal" by simply turnin into their element. They can dodge attacks and are usually immune to Haki-less sword slashes or bullets and the like, but they're not actually taking damage; simply turning into their element to avoid it.

Though even if I'm wrong, Akainu pierced right through Ace's body, causing internal damage as well; if Ace had only received external damage, he might have been able to survive despite his Devil Fruit being inferior to Akainu's, but here, a good deal of his internal organs were fried, so there was no way to heal damage this severe. Not to mention that even if he could turn into his element and heal, he was too weak to do so; Akainu's attack left him with barely enough strength left to speak before he died.


It is also possible that if Ace will turn to his element just to dodge that punch of Akainu, it will go straight to luffy. That's why instead of dodging it and might hit luffy, he let akainu hit him just to stop the attack.

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