Why did Bartholomew Kuma want to take Luffy's head after the Thriller Bark Arc? Wasn't he a member of Revolutionary Army and secretly working for his father Dragon? If it wasn't for Zoro, Luffy would have died.

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    i assume that that time he didn't know about luffy being his(dragons) son and so as a member of the shichibukai, he wanted to kill him Commented Dec 21, 2013 at 2:53
  • there is a reference in the episode 377 , just after the incident he says 'your son has good friends'
    – abkds
    Commented Dec 21, 2013 at 2:55
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    oh! Then let me check on it! Ill come up with an answer soon :P Commented Dec 21, 2013 at 2:57
  • @MärmîkŠhâh Wrong :) he does know about the connection between dragon ace and him
    – Dimitri mx
    Commented Dec 21, 2013 at 13:38

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Bartholomew Kuma was a undercover member of revolutionary army, he cannot just say to the marines that he wont kill Luffy. Similarly, Straw Hat Pirates and Rolling Pirates (Lola's group of pirates) heard the order of the marines and Kuma can't just take a risk of blowing his own cover.

Hence he pretends to fight them all, since that also gives him a chance to check the loyalty of his crew and what are there potential.

  • Is that the only reason?? :S Commented Dec 21, 2013 at 4:34
  • @MärmîkŠhâh I checked the story, and this seems the only logical reason. What do you think?? Commented Dec 21, 2013 at 13:00
  • I couldn't really find anything else so i guess this is fine! :) +1! Commented Dec 22, 2013 at 4:29
  • Is there something wrong with my answer, I mean its not accepted even after this much time. Commented Jan 17, 2014 at 14:17

I've always thought of it as, he knew that their crew wouldn't make it any further without hard training, so he had to make him realize what it would be like to lose his crew. It was also a great way to keep his cover in the military.

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    Can you clarify who is "he" and who is "their crew"?
    – nhahtdh
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 2:17

The answer contains spoiler from the Sabaody Arc:

I suspect that he was never after Luffy's head to begin with. I'm thinking that Kuma did, in fact, go to Thriller Bark at the behest of the WG however he intended, first to test the Straw Hats (as someone above said) and secondly to send them off (as he eventually does later on Sabaody). However, he was touched by the way everyone tried to protect Luffy and, seeing their desperation/determination couldn't bring himself to do it. Also bear in mind the situation on Sabaody basically forced his hand (if he hadn't sent them off Kizaru would have owned them eventually) while on Thriller Bark, they would be okay even if Kuma didn't send them off.

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