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OK so the other day I got to a discussion with my mate about the Remake of Evangelion and Evangelion in general. And he seams to be under the impression that the new Evangelion movies are not actually a remake but a sequel. And he does have good arguments backing it.

The idea being that the "Evengelion 1.0 You are not alone" world is the world that Shinji created at the end of "The End of Evangelion". If you think about it it does fit. One of the biggest hints for this is the same red sea seen with what the "The End of Evangelion" ends and "Evangelion 1.0" begins. More to the point, if you remember the original series, then there the sea was blue and in the remake it's red and if you think about the big differences than it does make seance.

But I just do not know, I kinda am convinced, but at the same time... are they really trolling with us? Kinda hard to believe, I would love to give counter arguments, but can't really think of any, because he is claiming that the world that was created by Shinji was almost identical but with some minor differences.

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    I don't have time to write a full answer now (so Jon Lin will probably beat me to it), but Rebuild is not a remake, as the story diverges. It may not be a sequel; however, there are many pieces of evidence that point to this conclusion. That said, there is no canon statement on this. Make of that what you will.
    – Cattua
    Commented Feb 26, 2014 at 18:49
  • First we'd have to figure out the original ending. Evangelion has always defied some conventions in this regard, but on a technicality the movies count as sequels, since they are neither remakes nor prequels.
    – Ocean
    Commented Aug 9, 2021 at 15:25
  • Related: What is Kaworu implying at the end of RoE: 1.01?
    – Stevoisiak
    Commented May 29 at 19:12

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It's interpretation.

There's nothing official whether there is a sequel or not. Aside from Kaworu saying weird stuff about "next time" or "this time" (and a weird translation of Kaworu's voice actor mentioning something about "looping" in an interview), all of the other instances (including the large chalk outline) of possible "time looping" or "rebooting the universe" have been explained in-universe or through story-boards in a way unrelated to any sort of sequel, "time looping" or "rebooting". This is not to say such images aren't meant to make people think that, or at the very least, as a reference or a nod to the original series.

  • The seas are red as a result of second impact.
  • The chalk outline is from an accident before second impact.
  • The blood stain on the moon, also from second impact
  • Second impact in this universe occurs chronologically as the same Second impact in the original series (Antarctica expedition, Misato's dad dies, releases of Adam(s))
  • Kaworu saying stuff about "next time" and "this time", unexplained

Kaworu has always been saying weird stuff, even in the original series, or, perhaps he's the time-travelling wizard in this version of Evangelion. It's up to your interpretation, and there's a lot of ways to interpret things, especially since we've been given such all encompassing world changing events like Instrumentality, of which we know next to nothing when it comes to the details or mechanics.

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  • @Blaisorblade third impact hasn't happened yet in Rebuild and the seas are already red
    – Jon Lin
    Commented Jul 26, 2019 at 18:10
  • You're right (so I deleted my incorrect comment). Maybe the new second impact is somehow the original third impact, but we don't know... Commented Jul 27, 2019 at 13:16
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This is just from what I read but it may be a Sequel as I read that Evangelion is about cycles and that Rebuild takes place after End of Evangelion where Shinji and Asuka somehow reverse everything to a new cycle. From what I read the evidence to support this is that the red sea is actually all the LCL that was seen at the end of End of Evangelion and that there are outlines of where the Mass Produced Eva's fell

/ End of Evangelion with the red LCL Sea and Mass Produced Eva's End of Evangelion

/ Evangellion 1.x where we see a red sea and a giant's outline Red sea and outline

However, as Eric said there seems to be no canon statement to this, and I read this on the Madman Australia Forums (though I can't remember the exact post).

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It's clearly a sequel. The red sea, the stain on the moon, and what Kaworu said are not just coincidence.

After End of Evangelion, a second chance was given to Shinji by Lilith and he chose that everyone should keep their separate form, therefore the AT field was given back to every person to keep their souls and bodies apart. The story repeats so that they can prevent what already happened.

This isn't my opinion, it's literally what happened.

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I’m only on the second movie rn but I think Asuka knows it’s a time loop because even she said something along the lines of “They’re all the same as last time. Nothing’s changed” so I’m saying it’s a sequel

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With the release of all 4 Evangelion rebuild movies, it's clear the events of Evangelion have already happened in some form or another. Whether or not they happened exactly as depicted in the original series is left ambiguous. While the most direct evidence comes from the fourth rebuild movie, I've included examples from the first 3 films as well.

Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone

Kaworu already knows Shinju as he awakens on the moon. He comments that it's the Third Child again and that Shinki doesn't change.

[KAWORU] I know. The boy down there has awakened, and is now in the generalization stage, right?

[KIEL] Yes.

[KAWORU] The Dead Sea Scrolls Apocrypha have been fulfilled up to the Book of Codes.

[KIEL] The time of the pact draws near.

[KAWORU] Number three again? You don't change, do you? I'm looking forward to meeting you, Shinji Ikari.

Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone transcript via Forever Dreaming

Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance

Kaworu mentions that he will make Shinji happy this time, likely referencing how he failed to make Shinji happy during the events of the original series.

Kaworu: Now, the promised time has come, Shinji Ikari. This time for sure, I'll make you happy, if no one else.

Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance transcript via eva-q-script by JackySee

Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo

Ironically, despite having Kaworu in a prominent role, 3.0 doesn't have any lines directly implying the events of Evangelion have occurred before. It does have some scenes where you could infer it as a double meaning.

When Kaworu plays the piano with Shinji, he says it's been a while since he enjoyed himself like this and that he's also a child of fate. Kaworu may be referencing the last time he met Shinji.

Kaworu: It's great to play together.

Shinji: Thank you. It's been a while since I last enjoyed myself like this.

Kaworu: Same here. Let's do this again. You're welcome anytime... Shinji Ikari.

Shinji: Uh, what's your name?

Kaworu: I'm Kaworu. Kaworu Nagisa. I'm another child like you, burdened by fate.

When Kaworu repairs Shinju's cassette player, he mentions he's been on 'this Earth' for longer than Shinji.

Shinji: You're amazing. It seems like you can do anything.

Kaworu: It's only a matter of technical knowledge. I've been on this Earth a little longer than you, that's all.

Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo transcript via Subs Like Script

Before Kaworu dies, he tells Shinji that when a soul is lost it's aspirations remain in the world and that the two of them will meet again.

Shinji: Kaworu, I... What am I supposed to do now?

Kaworu: Even when a soul is lost, its aspirations and curses remain in this world. Human will is conveyed as information throughout the world, and changes it. In time, we rewrite who we are. I'm sorry. This isn't the happiness that you were hoping to find. I'll close the Gates of Guf. You don't have to worry, Shinji.

Shinji: Kaworu... I don't understand anything you're saying, Kaworu!

Kaworu: Shinji, you need to find a place to rest that you can call your own. The ties that bind you will show you the way. Don't look so sad. We'll meet again, Shinji.

Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo transcript via Subs Like Script

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time

Gendoh says he wants the world Shinji refused, a world with no barriers between individuals. Possibly referencing Shinji refusing Instrumentality in The End of Evangelion.

Shinji: Tell me, Father, what do you wish for?

Gendoh: I chose a world that you refused, a world where there are no AT fields, where humanity shares one heart and mind equally. There are no barriers between individuals, nor disparities of wealth, nor discrimination, nor wars, nor abuse, nor pain, nor sorrow. A world of only pure unsoiled souls. And it is a very restful world where I can be with Yui again.

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time transcript via Forever Dreaming

Shinji remembers meeting Kaworu before.

[Shinji] I now remember. I've been here before many times and met you.

[Kaworu] Our names are alongside each other in the Book of Life. We'll keep on meeting each other.'

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time transcript via Forever Dreaming

Kaworu is shown repeatedly waking up on the moon.

[Kaworu] The only thing that can end my existence is vacuum decay. That's why I have to repeatedly play a role in this predestined circular narrative for all of eternity.

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time transcript via Forever Dreaming

Shinji tells Rei he won't reset the world implying it would be possible for him to have reset the world before. As this happens, footage of the 4 Rebuild movies plays on a projector screen behind them.

Shinji: I won't rewind time or revert the world. I'm just going to rewrite the world into one that doesn't have Evas. A world where new people can live.

Rei: Birth of a new world. Neon genesis.

Shinji: Yeah

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time transcript via Forever Dreaming

Shinji's mother Yui is shown sacrificing herself to save Shinji. Shinji says that the god-slaying his father wished for was for his Mother Yui. This follows up The End of Evangelion where it was said Yui would live on forever as an Eva, which have been repeatedly compared to God.

Gendoh: When man created Evangelion, were we trying to create a clone of God?

Yui: Yes. Humans can only exist on this earth, but the Evangelion can live forever... Even billions of years from now, when the Earth, the Moon, and the Sun are gone, Eva will exist. It will be lonely, but as long as one person still lives,

Gendoh: It will be eternal proof that mankind ever existed.

Shinji: Goodbye, Mother.

The End of Evangelion transcript via Forever Dreaming

Shinji: I see now. This is the reason why... You were inside me all this time, Mother. I finally understand. Father wanted to see Mother go. That's the god-slaying that he wished for.

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time transcript via Forever Dreaming

The imagery of both scenes mirror each other to hammer this point home further.

Yui in End of Evangelion

The End of Evangelion

Yui in Evangelion 3.0+1.0

Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time

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One of the reasons that make audiences believe it is a sequel and not a remake are the giant stains on the moon made by collapsing Lilith/Rei in End of Evangelion and present in the first Rebuild movie.

I think you can find main other arguments in the evageeks's counter-argument page about a "literal" sequel theory.

Personally I believe to be large space to interpretation being many things in NGE really ill-defined and not so clearly explained.

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I’m very late to this but the answer to the question ultimately is it’s a remake... i read that it’s just a different version of what happens in the show.... think about it in this instance: The end of evangelion( show) ended with merging with Lilith and giving Shinji the opportunity to choose the way that the world will continue instead of his father because of that conclusion although he decided that he want everyone to die even decided that he wanted things to stay as they were and I just ended up with Asuka and him in the end

With that being said A sequel would not make sense because if all of this is after Shinji saves the world or whatever you wanna call it in the first place everything literally happens again And they fight damn near the same angels just with a few new people it wouldn’t make sense for it to be a continuation just for them to have to do everything all over again

I also have a understanding that the movies are for those who didn’t watch the series because it came out so long ago (1996 i think) and it’s just a better adaptation of the story

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I've been hanging around the wiki.evageeks.org page, specially pages that talk about the new four 'Adams' seen on the Second Impact flashback, and I'm starting to let go of the idea that it is a sequel.

The chalk outline could be one of the Adams that died during Second Impact; as the Key of Nebuchadnezzar that Kaji gives Gendo in the 2.22 takes the place of the Adam Embryo from the Original Series, and Evangelion 13 (just '13', not 'Unit-13') is called an 'Adams' Survivor' by Mari in one scene in 3.33, implying that it was made from one of the four that appeared on during Second Impact. Same with Unit-01 (as opposed to being grown from Lilith) and Mark.06.

What I'm trying to get to, is that the red seas might have been caused by the Adams during the Rebuilds' Second Impact, and the chalk outline by one of the Adams. The red line on the moon is not explained yet.

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