The news of Ace capture is quite long time before the execution. And surely it will be much easier to save Ace when he was still in Impel Down (or maybe Enies Lobby). Is it because Shirohige is to far away? Can't he ask one of his subordinate or his alliance to save Ace? Where exactly was he at that moment?


Good question and a bit difficult to answer. I think the following things might have influenced White Beard to not save Ace in Impel Down:

  1. The whole Whitebeard crew, including alliance partners, are said to be in New World, not in Grandline. And to come to Marineford, the only way is through Fishmen Island, and mobilizing such large pirate group does take time.
  2. As we now know, the weather of New World is too unpredictable to travel quickly. Although it is not known whether Whitebeard was far away, but weather must have affected his travel time significantly.
  3. Ace was 2 division commander of Whitebeard pirates. So if such a strong character can be captured, then I don't think Whitebeard would risk any more of his family to intercept/rescue Ace in Impel Down or Enies Lobby.
  4. Reaching Impel Down/ Enies Lobby is considered to be difficult as it has natural protection in the form of circular waves which are used exclusively by marine only. Marineford is the remaining area where one can reach easily without going through the circular waves.
  5. Also it is not known but as Kaido tried to block movement of Shanks, a marines tried to stop Whitebeard, so there must be other factors which tried to stop Whitebeard from moving, which stalled Whitebeard from coming quickly.
  6. If he would have been able to save Ace earlier, then there won't be any fight and Ace would be alive right now. And that's not how Oda imagined it to be. ;)
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    1. any source that say whole White beard crew including alliance partners are in New World? 3. how come whitebeard wouldn't risk any more of his family if after that he attack marine HQ with his full crew? and I don't understand your fifth point
    – Darjeeling
    Mar 15 '14 at 1:41
  • well cant think of any particular source, but some dialogues come to mind. 1- some marine says that all new wold pirates came to support whitebeard just bore whitebeard's entry (also point 5). 3. i meant here that if 2nd division commander can be caught then anyother person less powerful would be able to have any impact. 5. Marines send warships to stop whitebeard from moving in new world. so he must have fought some marines before coming to save ace which took some time so he couldn't come early to save him.
    – Sp0T
    Mar 15 '14 at 4:17

My reasons would be,

  • Impel Down is surrounded by Sea Kings, they may deal with them easily but they still will pose a distraction. Their ships are not layered with Kairoseki, hence the sea kings will attack them. Someone has to wait outside to protect the ships against their countless numbers.

  • Straw Hat Luffy's physical strength is comparable to an average Division Commander (if not more), and he had to use Second Gear for the 4 Demon Guards (Awakened Zoan). If I were Whitebeard, I wouldn't attack such powerful Devil fruit users under such extreme conditions.

  • Imper Down's chief warden Magellan is Doku Doku no Mi Devil fruit user, a powerful fruit in any's hands. Obviously, no one would want to fight someone who can produce a,

  • Impel Down is the Great Underwater Prison in the middle of the Calm Belt, build to keep most dangerous criminals and pirates. No one in their right mind would try to take chances with this place (my opinion: Straw Hat Luffy doesn't have a right mind).

  • magellan's poison's antidote was there with Ivankov as he saved luffy . not the red one though.
    – Sp0T
    Mar 15 '14 at 4:22
  • @Sp0T that was not an antidote, Emporio Ivankov used his devil fruit's ability "Emporio Chiyu Hormone" to release his body's immune system's full potential, but the chance of survival is mostly based upon the individual's will to live. Mar 15 '14 at 5:03
  • Shiryu did have an antidote though. He saved the Blackbeard Pirates with it. Jan 11 '15 at 9:17
  • @PeterRaeves Only for Hydra, Luffy faced all his poison attacks while fighting Megallen, ;) Jan 12 '15 at 5:05

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